Megan Phelps-Roper

Megan Phelps-Roper, a former fundamentalist. Brilliant Ted Talk.

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Aggressive Christianity Mission Training Corps | Apologetics Index

Another good informational article re the history of ACMTC:

Source: Aggressive Christianity Mission Training Corps | Apologetics Index

saying goodbye

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When we move to Sacramento to join the Greens, life gets uncomfortable right quickly. Not the friendly gatherings I’d hoped for. Within a few months Jim, Lila and Steve decide my daughter Sarah (then 11) has to go live with her father who the day before served me with papers for visitation rights. Steve had said to him, “You’re not her father anymore, I am.” Ricks only sin is loving his daughter. He only wants shared custody. But Rick’s influence, they say, is “worldly, and he’d spoil her, and it’d harm her and all the other children, too.” As Rick and Sarah drive away I wait to see if she’ll look back, but she doesn’t. She wraps her arms around Rick’s neck, her smile about the size of her universe. The next day Lila says to me, “You mustn’t call, nor write her, do you understand that?” I was being tested.

Weeks later at a meeting my 13-year-old daughter Iantha (now Rebekah) is put to the test. She’s close to my mom who when we move to Sacramento we think we’ll see more of. But Steve says grandma and grandpa are “of the world,” too. He tells Iantha she has to choose between living with them or us. She says she wants to live with us. But Steve says she needs her faith tested. “I want you to go live with them for a month,” he says, “and THEN, YOU decide who you want to live with. Us or them? You can’t have it both ways.” Is God really this mean?

I stand up, holding Iantha’s hand, and I say, “You can’t do this to my daughter.”

Driving home, no one says a word. Even Nate, who’s 6, is holding his tongue. Once home and the kids are in bed Steve lashes out. “Don’t you ever embarrass me like that again, do you hear?  We’re here to do God’s work, and if you don’t want to be a part of what the Lord’s doing, then you and the children can all go live with your mom and dad.” I’ve never seen him angry like this before. I was 35 years old and two months pregnant.

So Iantha goes and lives with them, and after a month calls us saying she wants to come home. To Steve her return is not evidence enough of her commitment to Jesus Christ. As soon as she returns he hands her a box, and says, “ Put the stuff your grandma bought you inside this box. We’ll take it to the post office and return it to her in the morning. I want you to write your grandmother a letter, too, and tell her you’ll never see her again.” Is God really this mean?

Iantha’ letter (#1). Found when my sister and I went through our mom and dad’s estate. Emotions turned inside out.

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being fooled

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Aggressive Christianity Exhibit

Aggressive Christianity Exhibit.

Well written article. Accurate too as I recall, except for a few details.  The Bear Tribe was in CA, not MO, and I didn’t sue the Greens the day after I left. It took awhile to process what I’d been though, to understand it, and only then had I the desire to expose them, to hold them accountable for all the awful things they do in the name of their God.  

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Rebekah before and after. The story changes after you leave, because you’re no longer being told what to believe and say.

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re ACMTC and sickness

imagesHere’s the deal. Jim and Deborah Green teach that sickeness is caused by sin, either the sin of the ones afflicted, or of somebody directly or indirectly related to them. Diseases of all types, even the common cold and various aches and pains, they attribute to demons. Lila reported my children sick because I wasn’t fully committed to God. Sin they say opens doors for demons to come in and wreak havoc on the body. In their little community a single sin is believed to affect everyone—the whole body of Christ—and it can be as simple as doubting the word of God, as spoken by their prophetess Deborah Green.

They also assert sickness may occur to teach a lesson, all micro-managed by God, or it may occur for some greater good of God. A few times I heard Deborah claim she was sick because she bore the sins of the world (like Jesus, I guess).

ACMTC members don’t go to doctors or dentists. To them, it’s all about believing in, being right before, and trusting in God. They’ve no health insurance, and no personal money to pay for doctors. If someone has a bad tooth they’re driven to Juarez, Mexico and they get it pulled out. If a filling comes out, the whole tooth is pulled.

According to them modern scientifically based medicine is not “of God,” but “of the god of this world, the devil,” except of course on rare occasions, like when Joshua Green was hospitalized with malaria, or when Jim Green was treated for skin cancer. (What applies to members, doesn’t always apply to the Greens.)

The babies born to ACMTC women are delivered by Deborah Green, and there’s quite a few of them. (It may be their quickest way to fortify their ranks.) She delivers the babies so that the hands of the prophet will be the first to touch the infant’s heads.  The mothers receive no prenatal or postnatal care, and the babies no post delivery or follow-up care, and no birth certificates.

Was There Child Neglect? – Cibola Beacon: News

Was There Child Neglect? – Cibola Beacon: News.