Recovering from religion

Dr. Marlene Winell discusses steps to recovering from religion. Recovering from cults is much the same thing. Same advice applies.

podcast: the power of cults

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I stumbled upon this podcast the other day, and listened to The Power of Cults, Podcast #15, an interview with Dr. Janja Lalich. It’s an excellent resource explaining the phenomena of cults, and how intelligent people get swept up by them and stuck.

getting unstuck

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Schmierer v. The Tribal Trust, 2018-NMCA-058 – ObiterDictum

—>Source: Schmierer v. The Tribal Trust, 2018-NMCA-058 – ObiterDictum

Informational article, but once again, I just want to say I wasn’t physically locked up. I feared leaving, because I was duped into believing that if I left I’d go to hell. This was my last chance. My prison was mental. Plus I couldn’t leave my children.

And I didn’t escape. I could have left at any time. After 6 months of shaming, THEY kicked ME out.

This was clear in my deposition presented at trial in 1989 at the Sacramento Superior Court. In fact, the Judge said to me, “but you were free to leave.”

Yes, your honor, but I was afraid to leave,” I said. “I thought if I left I’d go to hell. And my children, what about them? 

Former fundamentalists describe the trauma of leaving their faith – The UC Observer

Screen Shot 2019-01-25 at 4.08.03 PM—>Source: Former fundamentalists describe the trauma of leaving their faith – The UC Observer

Good article, and yes, I am a former fundamentalist. I no longer believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God, or for that matter even inspired by God. I wrestled with my faith after 30 years of embracing it. Too many things made no sense. Questioning at first gave me night terrors. But then I used my brain for what brains are good for: research and reasoning. As a Christian I only read books to defend my faith, to support it. Now I was curious of the evidence on the other side.

What helped me most to cross over was reading books by Bart Ehrman, professor of the New Testament at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. He went to seminary to become a teacher of “God’s word,” but in studying biblical origins, the historical Jesus, and the origins of Christianity, he became un-converted. Like, do you know the gospels were not even written by Jesus’s disciples, nor their acquaintances? They were written 30–70 years after his death! Not even eye witnesses. Written anonymously. Names ascribed decades later. Ehrman points out errors in the gospels progression, like how Jesus became the “son of God” after baptism by John the Baptist in the gospel of Mark (scribed about 30 years after death), to “the son of God” in the womb in the gospel of John (scribed about 70 years after his death). How in Mark Jesus had passover with his disciples before his death, but in John he died during the Passover, signifying that he was the sacrificial lamb of God. Ehrman’s study and writings opened my mind and liberated me from the ancient dogma of the Christian faith, and once again, the fear of hell.



It’s been a long drama, but after nearly twenty years the verdict regarding the transfer of my 1989 CA judgment to New Mexico, against the Greens, or ACMTC, is finally in, first from the court of appeals, then from the NM Supreme Court: my law suit is NOT time barred. Unbelievable, I know: it’s so ancient! This story is so ancient. Once again, I believe we reap what we sow. The Greens and their army of followers eluded this CA judgment for over 30 years, moving, changing personal names, changing organization’s name multiple times, purchasing property with cash, money orders, hiding properties under another’s name, putting properties into fake trusts. Basically, their deceitful actions voided any time bar.

Generally we have to face the consequences of what we believe. Even if we don’t believe it anymore.

the incarcerated Deborah Green

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Nailed, but not to the cross. This is not persecution, not martyrdom. This is incarceration for horrible crimes committed.

I think we all want to know what’s going on inside her delusional head. I do. Will she remain locked inside it, or will she find her way out? I honestly hope she finds her way out, but I doubt she will. She’ll likely die believing she’s a prophet and a martyr for God.

I swear I can sometimes feel her suffering. Jim too.

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TEDx talk: I grew up in a cult. It was heaven and hell.

OUTSTANDING, POIGNANT, POWERFUL, UPBEAT!  What a light! Lilia Tarawa intricately and eloquently describes how heaven and hell can be entwined within the cult environment.

Jim Green’s sentencing

With a plea deal Jim received 10 years of incarceration, followed by 3 1/2 years of probation. Word is that during sentencing he cried and apologized to M.G. for the terrible way she was treated.
Screen Shot 2018-12-18 at 11.57.29 AMJim is the one with the heart. Yes, he was Deborah’s accomplice, he’s culpable for the abuse done, and he lied to cover things up. But my thoughts toward Jim have always been that he was duped just like the rest of us. He honestly believed that his wife received visions and prophesies from God. Per recently defected ACMTC members, Jim grew conflicted over the years because of Deborah’s demands.

Such was the case in 2005 when this article appeared in the Gallup Independent: